Bob Something
▶ Godbound
2018-10-07T21:05:56.924Z

So, what the hell ARE 'Lusus' anyway? I'm not entirely sure on what they are supposed to be that isn't covered by Misbegotten (warped person or animal) or a Parasite God (false divinity 'stuck' in a 'glitch' of Celestial Engines). From what I understand they seem like they are some leftover part/phenomena of a Realm whose engines failed...except sometimes that phenomena can manifest as/once was a person?

I'm just a bit confused on what they are, that's all.

Lance Johnson
2018-10-07T21:05:56.924Z

Lusae are far beyond Misbegotten. A Misbegotten could be a cat with spider legs, or a snake that is ten feet long and covered in rhino armor with octopus tentacles. Lusae are beyond even that - imagine a bear with a few extra limbs, one wing, transparent skin, and somehow melded with half of a carnival ride. Or a quasi-undead cyborg. Deep ones, Mi-go, and Shoggoths are examples as well.

Bob Something
2018-10-07T21:05:56.924Z

+Lance Johnson I meant more about what they are on a metaphysical level.

Lance Johnson
2018-10-07T21:05:56.924Z

As leftovers from a decaying realm, they can be as metaphysically powerful as any Eldritch, or as magically potent as a kitten. It varies depending on how you want to build them, and the kind of realm they’re from. Also depends on the rules they carry with them - do they become toxic or otherwise dangerous outside their realm? Etc.

Bob Something
2018-10-07T21:05:56.924Z

So what, does the term denote some mutated leftover from a dead world? What I'm trying understand is what they are and come to be , not what stat they have or what they look like.

I'd be tempted to say I'm 'overthinking' something meant to be vague, but as far as monster categories from the core Godbound book go they're really, really vague to the point that all you tell me is 'They are like X but more mutated'. At which point I ask why bother having their own name and category?

I'd be curious to see Kevin comment on what his intent for the Lusae are because they puzzle me in what they are meant to represent, lacking a core conceptual hook. Or maybe I'm wrong and they meant to just be a hodge-podge of stuff.

Jon Moyer
2018-10-07T21:05:56.924Z

+Bob Something I consider Lusae to be basically mutants. The celestial engines in their local environment have broken down and twisted natural law. Over time, the Lusae have evolved into warped and twisted forms in response to these new natural laws that are virtually unrecognizable from that of their original descendants. Like, one generation might more or less resemble humans, but their offspring might be protoplasmic ooze like shoggoths.

Jon Moyer
2018-10-07T21:05:56.924Z

+Bob Something I think they just are another way to represent how broken the world has become. They're just another way to reveal the tragedy of the fall.

Jon Moyer
2018-10-07T21:05:56.924Z

All that said, if you don't like Lusae being a kind of Relict I think Lusae could also work as Misbegotten.

Bob Something
2018-10-07T21:05:56.924Z

Well, it's just making them uber-mutants seem I don't know...too easy? Too lame? Lacking in potential? But maybe they are not classified as Misbegotten because of just how far removed from anything the characters would call a natural world they are? Maybe that is the point?

Marshall Brengle
2018-10-07T21:05:56.924Z

Lusae are relicts, meaning they belong to a realm less broken than Arcem. Their strangeness is due to them operating by different rules than can exist.

Misbegotten are products of Arcem’s brokenness. Their variance from humans is metaphysically “normal” for Arcem.

Doubtless the difference is academic when their fangs are at your throat.

Aaron Stockser
2018-10-07T21:05:56.924Z

Here's the way I like to use them. Misbegotten are more like mutations, something somewhat recognizable. Lusae can be thought of as "reality-warped" - not so much a sign that the world has changed but that reality itself is breaking down. They can be extra-dimensional, or quasi-dimensional.

They aren't products of evolution or mutation. They are "beings that should not be" and as such represent something far more ominous than twisted beings - when Godbound encounter Lusae it is a sign that the very fabric of reality has been warped, twisted, shredded, or broken somewhere nearby.

Hope this helps!