Matthew Skail
▶ Godbound
2018-09-11T22:18:32.336Z

Since Godbound with the right words can miracle corresponding Strife powers, could they also take them as Lesser Gifts? I can see an argument both ways but it seems a bit off that a fire martial artist can do things a God of fire couldn't.

Marshall Brengle
2018-09-11T22:18:32.336Z

🤔 this is an interesting question that I’ll be watching

Stacy Forsythe
2018-09-11T22:18:32.336Z

Most True Strife powers cost half a Gift Point each, don’t they? Lesser Strifes would be worth even less.

Dave Sherohman
2018-09-11T22:18:32.336Z

"Godbound can learn all three levels of a Strife's lesser art for the cost of one gift point, or by dedicating one Fact to it." - Godbound Deluxe Edition, p.212

So completely mastering a lesser Strife is essentially a Lesser Gift already, except that you can also get it even cheaper by taking it as a Fact.

Matthew Skail
2018-09-11T22:18:32.336Z

+Dave Sherohman I'm talking about the Greater Strife powers. If I'm playing a Passion or Desire GB, could I get as Lesser Gifts a power or two from the Scorned Lover strife? Ditto for elemental GB or a Beast one, or whatever. Certainly in the cases where the powers build on each other I wouldn't allow you to take one without another, but for powers that are independent...if you can miracle it, couldn't you also just have it?

Stacy Forsythe
2018-09-11T22:18:32.336Z

You do buy True Strife techniques with gift points, though, and the cost of an individual technique is usually less than a Lesser Gift would cost. So buying them as Lesser Gifts makes no sense just “economically.” What are you trying to accomplish that you can’t already do?

Matthew Skail
2018-09-11T22:18:32.336Z

+Stacy Forsythe Buy one or two powers without buying the full strife. If you want power 5 and that's all, then it is far more economical to buy that power alone than the opening power and a second set of two. Maybe you just want the cap stone power. While I can see needing the strife for characters who aren't bound to the word, what if a fire god just wants the capstone?

Paradox Song
2018-09-11T22:18:32.336Z

+Kevin Crawford is probably the only one who can answer skipping opening true strife powers with the appropriate Word.

Isaac Carroll
2018-09-11T22:18:32.336Z

If it were my game, I would allow a player to create their own gift that mimics a power from a strife. The book specifically says (page 29) "The lesser and greater gifts provided under each Word are not meant to be exhaustive, but only an example of the sorts of powers that the Word might grant."